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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1970-12-31

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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1970-12-31

Topics Live concert

Truckin, The Monkey And The Engineer, Cold Rain & Snow, Easy Wind, Big RR Blues, Cumberland Blues, Dire Wolf, Cryptical Envelopment > drums > The Other One > Black Peter, Sugar Magnolia, China Cat Sunflower > jam > I Know You Rider, Good Lovin' > Uncle John's Band

Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Winterland Arena
Location San Francisco, CA

Source Soundboard + FM
Lineage [SBD MR > Cass > DAT > CDR] + [FMS (KSAN) > ?? > Cass > DAT > CDR]
Taped by
Transferred by


Disc 1 Tracks 1-6: FMS (KSAN)>??>Cass>DAT>CDR
Disc 1 Tracks 7-9: SBD MR>Cass>DAT>CDR (Pre-FM GDH)
Disc 2 Tracks 1-2: FMS (KSAN)>??>Cass>DAT>CDR
Disc 2 Tracks 3-4: SBD MR>??>Cass>DAT>CDR

*Source for the KSAN stuff is questionable. It might be the audience taper that is heard being busted for at least the first part of disc 1. There is little audience noise throughout, so, it is likely that the KSAN source is correct, although the degradation of the sound is enough to make one think that it could be an audience.

** Taper being busted by band was moved by Gans to before Sugar Magnolia, but, it belongs before China Cat (both are present).


Reviewer: Mind Wondrin - favoritefavoritefavorite - November 15, 2016
Subject: 1st Winterland NYE party (that we have)

An average '70 show, though not bad for an NYE party. There are balloons popping, so actually the entire show takes place in '71. Three songs have been officially released. It's better than the El Monte shows a few days earlier, but the sources tend to have very erratic pitch problems. It was mixed in quadrophonic for quadcast (you turned on two radio stations at once for the full sound). There was a TV broadcast on KQED through "I Know You Rider" and the first four songs were FM-stereo simulcast on KSAN. The billing was: GD; Hot Tuna; NRPS; Stoneground; "Musician's Jam", so there was just one set from the boys.

Truckin' is played great but out of tune. Monkey is great and under 2min! Cold Rain & Snow sounds like a few players couldn't hear themselves or each other. Easy Wind is not the tightest (there's a cut on the FM source). Things are a bit rough until the Cryptical and then the playing gets good. There are a couple seconds missing from the end of The Other One on the main source. Black Peter is good - funny to hear a bootleg backlash from half the band, given the policy a decade later. Sugar Magnolia is in its simplest arrangement. Some sources move the "periscope patter" around but it should be between Sugar Mag and China Cat. On this source the 2nd iteration is longer, and with a Good Lovin' tease; CCS starts@1:43. Even with poor qual/balance/pitch you can tell the playing is good. I Know You Rider has the crazed & screaming girl that's been mentioned, though the recording is poor - mostly Phil and Bobby, and pitched fast by more than one key. The rest is below average for '70 but the boots don't represent the craziness that was going on.

Overall = C
2½ stars

Monkey & the Engineer - played well
Cryptical Envelopment>Drums>The Other One - best section

SOURCES: The fm.7283 source compiles the known fragments, except check:
*kaslow-todd.berger.101530 for Truckin' and Cold Rain & Snow.
*hollister-ayers.106.shnf for The Other One>Black Peter
*Monkey & the Engineer and Good Lovin' are on Download Series: Family Dog
*Easy Wind is on Closing of Winterland Bonus
*Big Railroad is @4:52 on Easy Wind and runs 5% fast, as do China Cat>Rider.
*Cumberland is a whopping, helium, 6% fast.
*Uncle John's runs 2% too fast overall but there's a slow wow and the pitch wavers.

@ cryptical70 - the cut is just on this source
Reviewer: njpg - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 7, 2015
Subject: -
The brown paper bag edition...
Reviewer: chris phillips - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 2, 2013
Subject: it was a very good year
Nothing like 1970 Grateful Dead which ends with a great show and set list.
Reviewer: cryptical70 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 29, 2011
Subject: Cut after "The Other One"
Although says that The Other One segues directly into "Black Peter," there seems to be a cut, which means that "Cryptical Reprise" may have been played.
Reviewer: brotherbuttcrack - - December 29, 2010
Subject: No problems here
Don't worry folks. Yes, the first 5 tracks are crappy, and so is china rider.

BUT! There's a different source that has the 1st 4 tracks.

SO! Put em together and you have a great sounding set of songs. (with the exception of cumberland and china/rider) but still a complete show.

Throw in the after show (Hot Tuna ft. Bob Weir) and you got yourself 2 great CD's of NY eve debauchery!

Reviewer: oh_uh_um_ah - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 4, 2008
Subject: Some tracks sound much better than others...hmmm
First 5 tracks sound fast,and the quality is poor, although Cold Rain & Snow sounds much better than the first two tracks and doesn't seem sped up, I could be wrong. Easy Wind & Cumberland Blues are fast as well, and have poor quality sound. The sound quality of DIRE WOLF is excellent, stereo soundboard. Cryptical Envelopement is also excellent stereo soundboard quality. Black Peter is excellent stereo soundboard quality. Then we have Jerry and Phil Busting the taper in the audience, soundboard stereo, excellent quality...Sugar magnolia is also soundboard stereo excellent quality.
China Cat/IKYR is poor quality audience sounding.
Good Lovin sounds like it's from the soundboard, stereo. Uncle John's Band is soundboard stereo excellent quality. Excellent quality here does come with tape hiss, and some blemishes but overall stereo, soundboard. I downloaded this show and recommend you do too, and be sure to click the Deadlists Projects hyper link and click the Poster hyper link and download the picture too. Man I love the Archives, Thanks for the love.
Reviewer: skuhn2 - favorite - June 12, 2005
Subject: gd70-12-31 New Years
Look for killer sound of the Thats it Suite and Black Peter> Sugarmag at the end of Kiel 10/24
Reviewer: jbphburg - favoritefavorite - June 3, 2005
Subject: Bad Sound
Great night, I'm sure, bad recording, you love those NY Eve shows, but this one is rough to listen to.
Reviewer: reefer_man2830 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 26, 2004
Subject: Good Lovin!!!
Okay, the sound quality is pretty degraded, but the energy level is VERY high, and the Good Lovin' is the culmination of the night! Best they ever did in my opinion.
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